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12 year old Daughter Constantly Fighting with Mom

When our daughter was 11, we moved to Chicago. She thought it was the end of the world. She wasn't going, she hated Chicago etc....After one year, we were transferred back. Our house did not sell, so we moved right back in, same friends, same school, same everything. Again, she wasn't moving back home, she hated that city. She misses Chicago (?) and wants to move to a new school system.

It seems like all we do is fight with her. We have a 9 year old son and all they do is fight. She can play/watch movies with him and get along and then boom-get away from me, I don't want you here with me, get away, leave me alone.

I have hygeine issues with her, She is so pretty and has blackheads all around her nose and pimples on her forehead (she covers with her bangs), doesn't brush her teeth and won't shower on a daily basis. I finally got her to wear a bra/cami top everyday and wear deodorant. That was a very hard battle. I just can't get her to wash her face, I bought the Noxema wash cloths, use and throw away...you would of thought it has acid on the cloth. The teeth problem, we visit the dentist every 6 months, no cavities. I asked the Dental asst to talk to her, she did. Still no cavities and no brushing for days.

She is obsessed with the computer. I grounded her from it yesterday, because she does not get off when I ask her to. That is how everything is, she will later, I'll get off in a few minutes, I'll take a shower tonight, I'll take the dog out in a few minutes.

I'm losing my mind. I never acted this way to my parents. I knew my mom would back hand me across the mouth. I get so angry some days I feel like doing that. I don't, I never have and will never do that. I know what that feels like.

I do yell when I can't take it anymore. That is bad too. My mom yelled and screamed at us. Some days, I think maybe she just needs to talk to someone, should I get a counselor for her? She is an "A" student, so this is not affecting her grades yet.

I just need a little guidance. My husband says I babied her too much...

She will be 13 in June and I feel that I'm losing my daughter. I don't want these problems when she is older and hates me. I want to fix this now. Can you help us? --Mean Mom

Dear Mom,
I'm so glad that you wrote. You're right to try to heal this situation now, rather than letting it continue to deteriorate over time.

First, I have a daughter who will be 13 in July, and I want to acknowledge that 12-13 year old girls can be challenging to parent. Their hormones are going crazy, so they are famous for their mood swings. They often don't even know why they're having an angry or tearful outburst. They often are ambivalent about "growing up" and resist the bodily changes and societal expectations that are thrust upon them, so getting them to adopt new grooming habits can be a challenge. They begin experimenting with being sassy, if they haven't done so thus far.

But I also need to point out that the problems you describe with your almost-13 year old are normal problems. I understand that she fights with her brother, is obsessed with the computer, procrastinates when you ask her to do something, does not brush her teeth regularly, does not shower daily, could wash her face more often, resented moving out of state, doubly resented moving again a year later, had to be battled into wearing a bra and deodorant, and probably has mood swings. These are all fairly normal behaviors for a girl her age.

You could be telling me -- as I hear sometimes from moms of other girls this age -- that she is boy-obsessed, that she is failing school, that her friends worry you, and that she is sneaking cigarettes or has tried drinking or drugs. Instead, happily, she is none of these things and is an A student.

Let me reassure you that I also hear your deep frustration with the situation. It sounds like your relationship with your daughter is full of fighting right now, and I hear -- especially in the way you sign your name -- that you are finding it difficult to be the parent you'd like to be.

And fighting all time, in any parent-child relationship, is not normal. It's an indication that something is wrong in the relationship. Luckily, even though every relationship is made up of two people, the parent can usually change the entire dynamic just by changing the way he or she relates to the child.

My prescription is that you start by strengthening your relationship with your daughter. Many of the problems you describe will melt away once you and your daughter have mostly good will instead of mostly fighting in your relationship. I know that's easier said than done, but you can do it, if that's your clear intention. How?

Make sure you spend time with her every single day. Hug her hello in the morning and when you see her again after school, snuggle with her a little in the evening before bed. Bite your tongue if you notice pimples or the need for more deodorant. Just use the time to connect with her, find out what's going on in her world, build a relationship that consists of more than fighting. Listen a lot. Do fun things together. Play her favorite games, put on music and dance, take her to brunch on the weekend. Resist the impulse to criticize. Consciously remind yourself -- and her -- of all things you love about her. Catch her doing things right as often as possible and tell her about them, as specifically as you can.

I know it might be hard to find her doing things right now that seem worth acknowledging, because she has stopped trying to please you, but give her positive reinforcement for any steps in the right direction: "I saw that you wanted to fight with me about taking a bath, but you went upstairs after only one try to get out of it. I appreciate that!" or "I saw you working hard to be nice to your brother at dinner. That meant a lot to him."

An important part of rebuilding your relationship with your daughter is cultivating empathy for her. I realize that you may think she is over-reacting or over-dramatizing. Girls this age have big feelings, which they will learn to modulate as those feelings are met with calmness and empathy.

For instance, your daughter obviously had a lot of resentment and anger about being dragged through two moves. Maybe those were unavoidable and important for the family. But she doesn't have to like them. In fact, it would be a rare child who would cheerfully agree, at the age of 11, to move. And once she had weathered that move, and made it work for her, and made new friends, and found a bigger self-identity, it would be pretty hard to go back to her old house and peers and a river that had moved on without her, especially at the age when all the peer shifts create in and out crowds.

Now, do you have to agree with her views? Of course not. You may think she is making a mountain out of a molehill. But if you saw it from her perspective, you would realize that to her it is a mountain. The great thing about empathy is that it helps her over the mountain, because once she feels understood she doesn't need to dramatize quite as much (although it will undoubtedly seem plenty to you!) The other great thing about empathy is that once she feels understood, she feels closer to you, which has all kinds of benefits (like she becomes more cooperative). Finally, your empathy allows her to mature and learn to manage herself emotionally, which is a big relief for the parents of teens. I encourage you to check out the article on this site on using empathy to help your child develop emotional intelligence.

I guarantee that a lot of the difficulties with your daughter will vanish once your relationship consists mostly of loving connection rather than fighting.

But of course she won't become perfect. She will still procrastinate, and not want to brush her teeth. So you will need to cultivate the patience of a saint. Is that fair? No. But since when has parenthood been fair? Parents do the work because they want their children to develop well, and because they love them. Despite the emotional rewards, parenthood is always a form of sainthood, precisely because it takes such patience and self-sacrifice. That doesn't mean you don't set limits. It means you do it in a patient, respectful, calm way, so your kids internalize calmness and respect and the ability to set limits for themselves.

While you are rebuilding your relationship with her, try to discipline as little as possible. Focus on what really matters -- how people in your home treat each other -- rather than surface things like whether her face is clean. When she does something you don't like, try to breathe, and point it out to her with a sense of humor -- but only if you really have to. For instance, she can go a couple more weeks being dirty and smelly. But if she is mean to her brother, you will need to intervene to establish that "In this house, we don't yell at each other, we treat each other respectfully." And if she raises her voice to you, you will have to say calmly "I don't talk to you like that, and I don't expect you to talk to me like that."

Of course, that means you can't yell at her either. I know you have been, and that you want to stop. I hope this will give you some incentive. I hear that you remember what it felt like as a teenager when your mother yelled at you, and how much you want a different kind of relationship with your daughter. Yelling undermines your daughter's self esteem and your relationship with her. I encourage you to do whatever you need to so that you can avoid yelling at your child. I encourage you to check out "How Parents can Control Their Own Anger" on this website, and also to look at the library for the book Love and Anger, by Nancy Samalin.

Tweens are difficult and often emotionally out of control. That means our job as parents is to stay in control ourselves, to give them a "holding environment" for their feelings. If we refuse to escalate, but simply offer calmness, we model how feelings can be tolerated, accepted, and managed. Without minimizing their concerns, our calmness gives them the message that while it may feel like the end of the world right now, it really isn't. If we respond to their upset by getting more upset ourselves, it's like throwing a match on kindling. If you can stay calm when your daughter loses it, she will be deeply grateful. She is unlikely to show it at the time, of course, but it will quickly change the entire tenor of your relationship with her.

I want to acknowledge that this is not easy. Not one of us is a perfect parent. When my daughter is unreasonable and raises her voice to me, I certainly feel like screaming back at her. But if I can stop, breathe, and remember not to take it personally, I find I can often offer her empathy "You are so upset about this. But please don't scream at me. We don't treat each other that way. Do you want some time to yourself to calm down before we talk about this?"

Then, I use that breathing room NOT to rehash why I'm right and she's an ungrateful brat, but to remind myself that what I want is a close relationship and an emotionally healthy child. I usually say a little prayer that states my intention and asks for help. And I find that when we do sit down to talk, I am able to be the understanding mother I want to be. Once she feels understood, she becomes more cooperative.  And I have noticed her controlling herself more.

Again, this isn't easy. It calls on us, as parents, to use this opportunity to become better people, with bigger hearts. Sometimes we find we need to seek counseling ourselves, to learn to manage our own anger. But I have seen over and over the positive difference it makes with our kids.

Finally, let's talk about what's wearing you down on a daily basis: grooming. Many girls this age are so conscious of peer pressure to be attractive to boys that they become meticulous with these grooming tasks. But most tweens need help developing good grooming habits. They need daily gentle reminders about what their new bodies need: daily showers, deodorant, teeth and face care twice daily, etc. If you can build these habits into the routine for three months -- reminding her nicely every single day -- she will then have developed habits that she will carry into adulthood.

You may well feel that you shouldn't have to remind her. But, speaking from experience in my own home, deodorant is seen as gross, those Noxema face wash cloths "hurt my skin," a shower is a waste of time and must be enforced by parents, a bra was an unwanted symbol of losing her childhood, etc. If I don't remind her to take a bath, she forgets. But that's part of parenting. As with teaching our toddlers to use the toilet and brush their teeth, it takes patience for our tweens to develop grooming habits, but they eventually do. And once they master this, they'll be on to the next challenge, and we'll have even less influence on them for that. I personally try to be grateful for the opportunity to be her mother a little longer. I have a 17 year old also, so I know how fast she'll be grown and out of the house.

I hope you and your daughter will become much closer over the next few years, which will strengthen your bond for the rest of your life. Enjoy her while you can.

Dr. Laura

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Anonymous commented on 07-Aug-2010 10:47 PM
Thank you, Dr. Laura. Your response helped me a lot. Your words hit home with me. It's good to realize that other Moms feel the same as I do.

I will print this out and remind myself of the positive relationship that I want to nurture with my 12 yr. old. Thank you for making my day!
~ LR

Kristina commented on 02-Mar-2011 12:24 PM
I have read and re-read your answer, it made me feel hopeful and thankful for you. I am failing horribly right now with my daughter, I feel like all I do is make mistakes and then worry I am damaging this human being I love more than I could ever put into words. I wish you could come and live with me for a week and help me put things back together with my daughter. She is 14 and so incredibly wonderful, but we are both lost right now. We have moved yet again, she is a freshman, my husband, her dad is always traveling, and I am arguing with her everyday. It's awful, draining, depressing. When I talk she doesn't listen, then I yell and that's just destructive. Teeth, and hair and face washing I still have to remind everyday, although sometimes she does take initiative, then she's just upset at me for not trusting her to do it. Then I don't remind and she forgets. I can't win for losing. It breaks my heart when I think about where we are with each other, I feel so alone and embarrassed that I don't have the ability to fix this right now for her sake and mine. She is my only child. I feel so lucky to have her, but I feel like I'm failing at being the mother she should have.

These womens daughters are 12, I kept thinking they have time and Is it too late for me and my daughter. I keep trying everyday to not argue to not yell to teach consideration to just make it work. I want her to be happy, feel secure inside. I get so frustrated by her behaviors that I get overwhelmed, and I actually cry in front of her because of something shell say to me. I feel so out of control, but I am the adult, and intelligent. Yet I feel like I just don't seem to be able to get us back to a good place. I used to be a really good mom I think but now I don't think I do anything right. Broken mom
Laura Markham commented on 02-Mar-2011 12:41 PM
Kristina,

Dr. Laura here.


1. Take it one day at a time. Even one hour at a time.



2. Stay positively connected. Make sure you have at least 7 positive interactions to every negative interaction. That means when you raise your voice you have your work cut out for you to reconnect.



3. Refrain from anything that could be considered criticism by your daughter until your relationship can better support it. There is no emergency that requires you to get upset at her. Who cares about teeth, hair and face washing? That will come in time. Even the pimples don't matter. They are transient. The connection between you and your daughter is permanent, and needs strengthening.



4. Realize that this is about your own challenges in managing your emotions. What are you modeling for your daughter?



5. Take care of you so you have more inner resources.



6. You will have setbacks but the good days will begin to outweigh the bad. Don't give up. Don't ever give up on your daughter, yourself, or your relationship.



You say you wish I could live with you for a week. Please consider doing a few sessions with me to get things with your daughter on track.


warmly,

Dr. Laura
Megan commented on 14-Mar-2011 09:35 PM
I cannot begin to tell you how much your words have calmed me. It feels like all I do is fight with my 12 year old. I am a single working mom and I love my daughter with every fiber of my being. It breaks my heart every time she is snappy and nasty with me for zero reason, for instance, I knew last night she couldnt sleep, so when I talked to her after school today I said why dont you wai t to do your homework till after supper and take a nap now, and she bit my head off saying she didnt have home work and she wasnt tired. This is an all the time occurance. But reading this gives me hope and knowing that I am not the only parent going through this helps also. Thank you again.
TiredMom commented on 07-Jul-2011 12:49 AM
Wow..This sounds like my daughter and I right now. On top of all of the issues above I am dealing with her not wanting to have visitation with her father. She is feeling like no one loves her right now and yet when I do try to give her affection she pushes
me further away. We are in counseling right now to try and get through this but I too have found hope in this posting. Thank you!
Julie commented on 16-Aug-2011 09:25 AM
I have the exact same situation with my almost 12 year old son...most the arguing, fighting and yelling. Our morning was so bad on the way to school that he left the car with watery eyes, and I drove home sobbing. I felt like such a horrible mom when all
I want is the best for him (like we all do). Through teary eyes, I googled and found your website. Your response has given me a new perspective, a new attitude and a new approach. I think as adults, we reason with and explain to our children the error of their
ways. To us, it seems logical and rational and thus the outcome should be logical and rational. But, we as adults have had a lifetime of experiences to compare and evaluate against. They have not. I see that I must step back and have much, much more empathy
for my son even when I know his actions and reactions are completely wrong. But, his feelings are his feelings and they are very real and correct to him. I don't want to yell and argue with him until he "agrees" with my point of view. Neither one of us is
gaining anything, only losing. It's nice to know that I'm not the only mom out their that feels like a complete failure. There is hope!
staci commented on 17-Oct-2011 09:02 PM
hi im a kid and all me and my mom do is fight and i hate it i love her so much but all we do is fight and i cant stand it . i love you mom 10/17/11 ~staci
Laura Markham commented on 18-Oct-2011 10:07 AM
Staci- You are a brave and smart girl to reach out to your mother like this. Your mom loves you, too, she just doesn't know how to show it right now. Please send this link to your mom so she can read it.


To all moms of 12 year olds: Please Note that Staci is speaking for your child as well. Your child loves you. Find a way to melt those barriers and reconnect with your child before she gets any older. Remember that you are the grown-up. Your child is depending
on you.
Stressed and Frusterated commented on 20-Oct-2011 01:21 AM
Hi. I'm a 12 year old girl and that sounds a lot like me and my mom. I love her so much but we always fight. Lately things have been better but it really sucks when we do fight even now because we are the only people in the house. My mom and dad seperated
when I was only 5 and my brother moved out a few years ago. He was living with my dad but recently he moved into his own house.(He is 20) I have visitation with my dad 3 times a week and I have to have a supervisor with us at all times. The original request
for help and some of the other posts were so like what is going on with me and my mom that I wondered if it was her. The only thing that assured me it wasn't was the birth month. Other than that I could have sworn it sounded like something she would say. Especially
because she does say stuff like she feels like a mean mom. I don't mean to make her feel that way, we just get into arguements and than I feel like a bad kid. This may sound wierd but I even have the screen off my window (it has locks though, don't worry)
so that I have the assurance that if my mom and I get into a huge fight I can go to my friend's house. She lives like three minutes walking time away. I know I would neveer actually do it( we had a situation where my brother snuck out to go see his girlfriend
one time and I remember how terrified both my mom and I were) but for some reason it helps me feel less trapped knowing that I could get away if I needed to. I just turned 12 a little over a week ago and my mom and I got into a big fight about whether or not
I should wear makeup to school. I can see it form her point of view how I shouldn't but I can also see it from y point of view. She thinks that even though mast of my friends wear makeup to school that I shouldn't because she is worried about the impression
that it makes, because someone that has know me for a long time asked me what it was that was on my face when I was wearing makeup. My objection is that I know I'm not an adult, but I'm not a baby anymore and I kinda feel like that's the way I was being viewed.
His girlfriend that I met for the first time that day however though that it looked pretty. My mom also says that if I want to wear makeup to school than I have to get a letter from one of my teachers saying that "everybody" wears makeup to school. I would
say that close to 60% of the girls at my school wear makeup(I'm in 6th grade)and I don't really like the idea of bringing that up to one of my teachers. One of her objections is that she doesn't want me looking trashy when I go to school and my opinion of
that is that I don't wear too much, I have common sense, school rules say that if makeup is distracting then we have to take it off, and she HAS seen me play around with my makeup at home and use it fine without going overboard. It frusterates me that she
doesn't realise that I'm NOT a baby. She says that I only have so long to be a kid and I have years to be an adult but I have already kinda gotten out of that kid stage and it's not my fault. I had to grow up really quickly because my parents' divorce was
not pleasant. My brother and I were so far apart age wise that he understood what was going on when I was still just upset that Mom and Dad were yelling. I remember trying to go to my brother for comfort and he didn't really have any to give. I don't blame
my brother; he was just a kid. He was 12 and I was 4, how could he do anything? It sucks when my mom and I get into fights because we only have each other in the house so its really lonely when we are mad and don't want to see the other. And the other thing
is about dating. My mom thinks that I am wayyyyy to young to date. I know 12 is still too young but she thinks 16!!!! A few of my friends(especially at a close school) already date and stuff and I think that 16 is a little frusterating. That part doesn't bug
me as much as the makeup thing. I tried to talk to my mom about it but her mind is made up that the only way I can wear makeup to school is if I get a letter from one of my teaches. I just wish everything wasn't so stressful.
Laura Markham commented on 22-Oct-2011 07:09 PM
Hey, Stressed and Frustrated- I hear how upset you are that you and your mom can't agree. Please give your mom this link. I don't know if you should use makeup. But I know you and your mom should not be fighting and stressed out all the time. Hugs, Dr.
Laura
Constant arguing commented on 08-Nov-2011 08:27 PM
Hi I'm 15 and I'm constantly stressed . So when my mom criticizes me, I crack. This makes things worse than they already are and I feel horrible every time it happens. Right now, my dad goes on frequent business trips and this is happening a lot more than
it needs too. I think that my mom got really stressed out when she's dealing with my 2 year old baby sister . Since my mom doesn't like to talk about these kind of things, I wish that there was some way I could get her to open up to me and that things aren't
as stressful
Anonymous commented on 21-Dec-2011 07:06 AM
I am so glad I found this link. Tears were flowing reading it. My 12 year old daughter and I used to be a total team. Even though we spend alot of time together, shuttling her to activities, etc...this article has made me realize that there is no actual
bonding time between us. I think spending 45 minutes in a car together is enough and then get angry with her when she doesn't 'appreciate' (a word I use alot) what I 'do' for her. I'm also realizing that I can be critical in a way that makes sense to an adult,
but not a 12 year old girl. I'm sure every time I say, "you need to wash your face more"...she hears "you're ugly". How did I forget what it is like to be 12?! I also realize that how I have been punishing her for her attitude is by taking myself away from
her....that is not fair and probably the worse thing I could do at this stage. Things will change for us - TODAY! Thank you so much!
Anonymous commented on 09-Jan-2012 04:06 PM
Yes, thank you so much for this article. The thing I struggle with the most is trying to justify treating her empathetically when she is being so rude and mean. It doesn't seem to fit or be logical. When we are rude to other adults, are they nicer to us
in return? No, of course not. I think the only think giving her attention is teaching her is that her negative behavior is working, getting the attention she is seeking. So when she is acting up, I take myself out of the situation and ignore her (or at least
try to).
f commented on 27-Jan-2012 05:16 PM
I'm like that with my mom its normal

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